[solved] Printing issue

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fkirim
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[solved] Printing issue

Post by fkirim » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:11 pm

Hello I am carried out scale to fit print out and the print out image is blurred. For example:
- The text is ineligibale as it is all merged into one block
- the lines of the fittings are missing in print out although in the computer screen print preview they are there

I am attaching for the drawing for your info.
Also I am attaching the print out fyi

Kind Regards,

Filiz
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Re: Printing issue

Post by andrew » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:58 pm

Layer "Text" has a line weight of 1mm. You'd have to change this to something smaller (same for "Walls") if you print at a small scale.

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Re: Printing issue

Post by fkirim » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:05 am

Hi Andrew, I have done what you told me to do BUT my issue is still continuing. I can sort out the text and the walls tickness via "Edit layer" BUT when comes to "fluofitting" layer although i put the highest line weight still not visible properly. When i take a print out the "Fluofitting" layer looked dashed. please see attached image and I attached the dwg for your review again. Would you please look at the drawing and print out properly because really i am in thight schedule and loosing my time with these kind of issues.

I will appreciate your help.
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Re: Printing issue

Post by andrew » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:45 am

To understand the problem, you need to understand how that drawing is made up.

The various blocks (F-*-*) in your drawing contain polylines with fixed segment widths. These fixed widths can be used to create polylines at any, fixed width in drawing units (independent of layer or lineweight property).

Needless to say, these fixed widths do not scale with print preview scaling. They also slow down your drawing.
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Please understand that the issue is related to your drawing data, not to QCAD. Your drawing tells QCAD explicitly to draw those polylines at a fixed width (e.g. 0.1, 0.45 or 0.5 drawing units). I cannot tell you why your drawing is made that way. You're in a much better position to answer that.

How to "fix" or change this:

First, note that there is no way to fix this without changing the appearance of the drawing.

From your previous posts, I guess that you will probably want to remove those fixed polyline weights. To do so, you can take advantage of the fact that dxflib does not support fixed polyline line weights:

1. Load your drawing
2. File > Save As...
3. In the file dialog, change format to "R15 [2000/LT2000] DXF Drawing [dxflib] (*.dxf)"
4. Save

5. Close the drawing
6. Load the new DXF file created in step 4. The polyline widths are now removed.
8. Save this drawing under a new name, this is no longer the same drawing as 1.dwg.
9. You might want to adjust some layer lineweights, etc.
10. Print

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Re: Printing issue

Post by CVH » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:58 am

fkirim wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:05 am
Would you please look at the drawing and print out properly because really i am in thight schedule and loosing my time with these kind of issues.
I take this as you are blaming us for your issues.

I am really astonished you get so far with such a file.
Andrew has proposed to reduce the lineweight when printing in a very small scale.

Altering the lineweight of a layer with thousands of polylines with an own Global Width doesn't alter anything.
The Polyline Width supersedes the lineweight.
'fluofittings' (Not with a capital F) uses 1mm, 5mm and 10mm Widths

Andrew answer was quicker.
If you want to know how your drawing prints in A4 on a laser at this side:
1.pdf
In fact, it's a waste off forum space and I will delete it within 5 days.

Regards,
CVH

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Re: Printing issue

Post by fkirim » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 pm

Dear CVH,

First of all I did not draw these drawing. They already came to me through another architect. I just work on them and add another additional drawings. Second of all when I was using Autocad and Draftsite I never encountered these problems and even if I encountered fixing was very easy. I have been using Autocad for 1993. So lets say I have quite experience in the subject. I just need to figure out my way around your program and i was looking for help. Now i have done what Andrew is saying and it looks working. Thank you for your help.

Kind Regards,

Filiz

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Re: [solved] Printing issue

Post by CVH » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:40 pm

fkirim wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 pm
They already came to me through another architect.
That's your first problem. You don't know what you got.
There is a reason why it comes as a DWG, try to post it as DXF.
A drawing with a layer with only 14 different pictograms scattered AND individually repeated in 397 Block References that explode to 199,205 polylines with a custom width and taking 100Mb for a backup file. I call that bad practice.
Not to mention that all those entities existed again in an unused block ...
That makes 398,410 boundaries to fill for some light fixtures !!! About 1000 per fixture.
BTW: Are all floors called 1.DWG? This doesn't look anything close to your first posts.
fkirim wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 pm
Second of all when I was using Autocad and Draftsite I never encountered these problems and even if I encountered fixing was very easy.
If those perform so much better... then use them ... A refund was proposed
BTW: It's DraftSight and only cost $99/yr for the standard version.
fkirim wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 pm
So lets say I have quite experience in the subject.
Sure ... Although a polyline width of 10mm stays by definition 10mm, even on a A4, even only 0.12mm long.
Don't blame us it was set to 10mm.
fkirim wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 pm
your program
NOT at all my program ...
But I was the first to say (and feel) sorry.
  • Revising your first drawing.
    Redrawing about 30 blocks.
    Setting up proper attributes ....
    QCAD flooded my HDD, my memory and crashed the PC 3 consecutive trials.
fkirim wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 pm
and i was looking for help.
I am a simple paying user that would be glad to help you if you let me to.

Andrew has chopped up your multi topic for you (See forum rules).

Did you even looked at those new entries?
Propositions are made, did you try those?
No, you rejected them referring to your experience with other applications and demanded a quick fix.

There are questions asked but still open.

Again, I am sorry, and I am blaming nobody in the process.
Still I hope you get things sorted out in time.
CVH

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