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Add Option to Angelur DIM Tool ...

Post by Husky » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:19 pm

Hi,

the Angular Tools offers already a lot of DIM Variation but one important measurement is still missing. The Degree Value to an Orthogonal reference.

Example what bugs me since years .... :D

If I need to produce something like this ...
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... I get every angle delivered from QCAD - except the needed one in red. Without construction lines or calculation no way to get it. But this is a very needed (if not the only one!) angle to produce it with standard equipment like a table saw, miter saw or many existing guides and fences.
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Most of those tools are based on this concept:
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I'll post a feature request but let me ask you: Is except me nobody else missing this?
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Re: Add Option to Angelur DIM Tool ...

Post by andrew » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:09 am

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Are you looking for a dimensioning tool or a measuring (info) tool?

I could imagine a tool that lets you click a center or focus point, choose the reference direction (top, right, bottom, left), click a point that defines the angle. Probably not so easy to grasp for the user though. Do you have any other ideas how such a tool could work step by step?

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Re: Add Option to Angelur DIM Tool ...

Post by J-J » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:53 pm

Hi,
I support this idea, there have been occasions where I have had to draw a line to show the angle, no big deal but would be convenient.
In fact you are looking to show what is called in maths, the 'complement (to 90°) or the supplement (to 180°) of an angle. Certainly tricky to implement in code... :?:
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Re: Add Option to Angelur DIM Tool ...

Post by Husky » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:38 am

andrew wrote:Are you looking for a dimensioning tool or a measuring (info) tool?
I'm looking for a dimensioning tool or maybe even better an addition to the existing Angular tool. Sure - an info tool would be also nice but fo me is it more important to provide this DIM proper on a drawing before it goes to a shop.
Based on the old rule: No worker on a workbench should be in need to use a calculator to understand a drawing ...
andrew wrote:I could imagine a tool that lets you click a center or focus point, choose the reference direction (top, right, bottom, left), click a point that defines the angle. Probably not so easy to grasp for the user though. Do you have any other ideas how such a tool could work step by step?
Here my (properly naive) thoughts - it's pretty similar to yours:
The current Angular tools needs two entities (reads the angles for calculation) and will then provide ALL possible angles.

I was thinking that this can be used with an additional on/off option switch for this new function. "Off" (default?) means the Angular tool works as before.

"On" means it needs still two entities but the second clicked entity will trigger a different calculation. The second entities will provide an angle which can be used for an orthogonal (?) calculation. Then it needs a chosen reference (Snap) where to use this Orthogonal (within the code) line. With this info it should be able to show ALL possible angles and I can chose which one I need.

In short: Option on + 3 clicks.

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My naive thinking is when you have the result of this second click calculation + a reference then you have a similar situation like the ordinary Angular tool.

Do you think a second tool is less confusing?
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Re: Add Option to Angelur DIM Tool ...

Post by Husky » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:41 am

Hi J-J,
J-J wrote:... In fact you are looking to show what is called in maths, the 'complement (to 90°) or the supplement (to 180°) of an angle.
... that was my missing piece. Thanks for the clarification!
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