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1345 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Added option to paste a number of entities with even/eq... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Please see topic: http://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=31&p=14209&sid=162973e4a12f58c8116299b62673a520#p14209
An additional option would be useful to paste any given entity a set number of times with even/equal gaps in between.
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1362 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | new layer tool: Toggle visibility all | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi,
I use a lot of “temp” layer to keep my drawing organized during a design session. Ad the end of the day (or week or month ...) I need to get rid of this “garbage” but unfortunately there is no easy way to delete all this layer in one go. Most of the time those layer are invisible. The “important layer” are visible. If I could toggle all layer from visible in invisible in one go with a switch like “Toggle visible layer all” and then use “Select all” / delete / Purge unused layer I’m able do get rid of this stuff with just a few clicks.
The same tool would help to improve the workflow in the case that I just have to switch between all visible / invisible layer for testing / double checking / cleaning or what ever. Currently I have to toggle every single layer to get this done and if I work with many layer I need to have a perfect working memory (or a piece of paper with many notes!) to be able to restore the same desired working order.
And I’m confident - there are many more useful scenarios for a tool like this one ...
pics: “Toggle visibility all” with one click:
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1407 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Splines: add support for knot weights, start-, end tang... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Attached DWG/DXF files are incorrectly read by QCAD. They contain splines drawn using ZWCAD and saved as DWG/DXF version 2000. Above splines are polylines created with autolisp routine which converts spline to polyline, so you can see how splines should actually be drawn.
First spline is created with fit points: 2,2 4,4 6,2 Then copied and applied weight of 2 on central control point. Then copied again and applied weight of 0.5 on central control point.
Second spline is created with fit points: 6,2 8,4 10,2 with vertical start and end tangent. Then copied and applied fit tolerance of 1 for fit points.
Third spline is created with fit points: 10,2 12,4 14,2 with horizontal start and end tangent.
Fourth and fifth spline are correctly drawn by QCAD.
Link to bitmap (converted to png) export: External Link
Versions QCAD version: 3.13.1.0 Date: Mar 17 2016 Qt version: 4.8.4 Compiler version: gcc 4.4.3 Build Date: Mar 17 2016 Revision: Architecture: x86_64 OS: Linux OS version: Unknown
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1425 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Automatically create hatch entities behind border entit... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Automatically set the draw order one lower than the lowest draw order of a border entity when creating a hatch. This should be a user preference, since not everyone might want that behavior.
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1430 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Modify > Round: one-click fillet | Assigned | |
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Task Description
See also: http://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=4256
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1440 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | New Drawing in Simple API | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Could it be possible to add a simple function to add a new empty drawing (like File > New) to Simple.js ? Thank you. (PS, this simple.js API is awesome, btw :D)
( I already have my own to simplify my scripts, but it does not seem to work correctly if I set action.setRequiresDocument(false); in the init functions See more at http://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4203#p15203 )
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1443 | QCAD (main) | Bug Report | Very Low | View > Status Bar remains unchecked | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Status Bar menu remains unchecked even it is toggled on or off
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1452 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Colour opacity option | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Not sure how difficult this would be to implement but just wondered if it is possible to have an option in QCAD to change the opacity of a colour ?
related to topic: http://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=83&p=15715&sid=45f0f0679e8257f3cf98f91e4f0c4577#p15715
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1462 | QCAD (main) | Bug Report | Low | Mac Trackpad zoom gesture not working as expected | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi,
I am using mac version and I have annoying issue with trackpad. I use qcad primary with my trackpad and under application preferences (Graphics View/Navigation), my setting is as follows. Mouse wheel / two finger swipe: Scroll (Trackpad... Enable pan gesture : unticked (found that enabling this often goes into pan mode when I am just moving my pointer around) Limit zoom and scroll to prevent overflows : ticked (hoping that this would prevent weird zooming issue. I will describe what I am experiencing later this page) Reverse mouse wheel direction for zoom :unticked Mouse wheel zoom factor: 1.02
Things work as expected:
Issue I am experiencing:
Often, when I am zooming in and out with two finger gestures, the view suddenly sets to some weird state and my drawing goes off the ruler. The mouse point remains where it is.
Workaround: Reset viewpoint with autozoom and navigate around.
Expected zoom behaviour: I expect viewpoint to zoom in / out at where my mouse pointer is or at least the centre of current view point.
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1464 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Option button to access finer grid to snap | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi,
I use eagle cad for pcb designs and I like its ability to snap to finer snap to grid when pressing option button (ALT in windows). I am fine with auto grid setting, however, it would be good to also have a way to access finer grid when pressing down option button.
For example, when zoomed out, grid is 100mm apart. When pressing down on the option button (ALT in windows), grid switches to finer 10mm. This will save me time, zooming in to access finer grid to snap to.
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1469 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Low | Cartouche automatique | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Would not it be possible to create a kind of template for printing? We draw our room without cartridge. The cartridge will automatically appear when printed. The scaling could be automatic so that it goes in the A4 and therefore also will post the scale automatically. The name of the play could be the file name, date last saved after it the rest of the information that would be to add somehow (material index, designer, ...).
Original suggestion:
Bonjour,
Ne serait il pas possible de créer une sorte de template lors de l’impression ? On dessine notre pièce sans cartouche. Le cartouche s’affiche automatiquement lors de son impression. La mise à l’échelle pourrais être automatique pour que ca rentre dans le A4 et donc l’échelle s’afficherai aussi en automatique. Le nom de la pièce pourrais être le nom du fichier, la date du dernier enregistrement après c’est le reste des infos qui serait à ajouter je ne sais comment (matière, indice, dessinateur, ...).
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1472 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Arc fit tool to improve large files | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Large files/large entities perform bad in QCad. There are many dxf files that are created with thousand of lines that perform reasonable in other cad’s/cam’s that qcad cannot match.
One very useful tool, that could be added would help to improve qcad performance and at the same time enlarge the dxf quality (by replacing thousand of files by arcs), would be a tool called “arc fit” where, when possible and under a determined possible error margin (user selectable) creates arcs replacing the existing lines. This would improve the file work in QCad also improves CAM software that would work after QCad, that I think is important for many users.
For example, if it is needed to use qcad to generate toolpaths for letters, after exploding letters, the output is almost impossible to work due to the number of lines that are created. Having arcs instead of lines would greatly improve qcad use.
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1503 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Detect duplicates within a given selection -new tool re... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
It would be so useful to have an option to be able to detect duplicates within a given selection.
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1526 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Low | Exporting block attributes to CSV | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Two useful commands make it necessary to
1-”delete all the history of the command lines without terminating QCad” ; and
2-”export attributes to the CSV file as exported to the Blocks List”
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1541 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | View > Zoom > Zoom In/Out: Make zoom factor configurabl... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
See also: https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4729
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1555 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Export list of points. | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hello It would be great when you can add a function to export a selected object as a list of points. Is it possible to add?
Autodes DWG TrueView 2017 has this function and it is very useful. Here you can see a screenshot of this function.
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1577 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Postfix for DIM / Remember last DIM Label ... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi,
unfortunately I need to use from time to time different Units in a drawing. It works nice with the Scale possibility but to keep my drawing readable I need to label then the DIM accordingly. Sadly I don’t have a Postfix option so I work with a workaround what means I use <>”, or <>’ and <>mm in the Prefix field. If I then terminate the DIM tool and start it again I will loose my settings except the Scale Factor.
May I ask for an additional Postfix option or/and a remember functionality of those fields?
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1613 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Add Orthogonal Option to Angelur DIM Tool ... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
... please see below:
https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=4956
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1626 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Very Low | 'Clip to Circle' tool | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi Andrew,
Would it be possible to have a clip to circle tool also please?
Regards
Clive
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1673 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Layouts and Viewports: support polygonal viewports | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Add support for polygonal viewports
See also: https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=5241
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1702 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Draw > Polyline: add boolean operations | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Add intersection, union, difference, XOR operations for closed polylines.
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1705 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Connect certain actions and layers | Assigned | |
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Task Description
When dimensioning my drawings I always want the dimensions to be on the dimensions layer. When adding text I want the text to be on the text layer. When drawing an infinite line it is always a construction line, therefore I want it to be on the construction line layer. When drawing a line segment it almost always is on my outline layer.
So I propose a new option to bind certain actions to certain layers. Whenever those actions are selected the layer should automatically be switched.
I can imagine this being implemented in the General→Tool Settings menu, where the short cuts are defined.
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1713 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Add attribute value "By Parent" for child layers | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Add attribute value “By Parent” for color, line weight, line style for child layers.
See also: https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5407
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1714 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Dimension > Diametric: improve display when label is mo... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
See also: https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5408
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1755 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Selecting standard rotation angles by mouse click for M... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
This would be nice. It will save a lot mouse - keypad changes for me.
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1789 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Low | Application Preferences / General / Performance :0 | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi Andrew,
we know that you need to have always software performance in your mind to decide which features / tools can / should be implemented and on which way.
I really appreciate your effort to find the best middle way between software features and performance but I think also it’s a tough call to appraise worldwide the overall customer equipment to make the software workable to the best for everybody. That isn’t possible without compromise.
Maybe it would make sense to think about a new dialog in the “Application Preferences” to let the user decide what kind of feature are absolutely needed regarding to his/her work-task / equipment. I don’t mean that you need to cover every single thing but the main “performance jeopardy’s” should be covered with an on/off switch.
Yes I know - that isn’t done in 5 minutes but I think that can make your life easier in the long run and will cover even more customer.
Just my two cents. ;)
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1810 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Change icons from black on white to white on black depe... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Automatic change of icons in the Library Browser from black on white to white on black or vice versa depending on the background (white or black; light or dark) in QCAD main window. See also https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=31&p=21970#p21970
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1833 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Deep synchronize attributes feature | Assigned | |
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Task Description
There is the Synchronize attributes feature which works well. But It affects only block references in the active layout(modelspace, block layout). If I want to synchronize attributes of block references in in another blocks, i have to manually go through all blocks and run synchronize attributes feature. That is the reason I would like to modify Synchronize attributes feature to affect all block references in a drawing, or add new Deep synchronize attributes feature.
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1837 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Line bisector tool | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi,
we have already this nice tool “Angle bisector”.
I would really appreciate if we could get the same function for parallel lines to place a line exactly in the center of both lines.
Thanks.
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1878 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Snap > Distances from 2 Points: snap to point with give... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
See also: https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/posting.php?mode=reply&f=32&t=6211
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1888 | dwg2bmp | Feature Request | Low | Add support to disable hatch rendering on "dwg2bmp" | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi!
A friendly request to add an option to disable hatch rendering on “dwg2bmp” conversions.
Depending on the nature of the conversion and the density of the hatch, this may render unintelligible images (see attachments). The option could look like “-t, -nohatch” to indicate hatches should be hidden before rendering. This could potentially become an option too for “dwg2svg” or “dwg2pdf.”
Amazing product, thank you so much!
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1903 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Saving layer settings, e.g. visibility status, associat... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
In a medium complex drawing it may be too much details to have all layers in a drawing visible at once.
Instead a number of views would be created that saves not only zoom level and position but also what layers are visible and not (as appropriate for the purpose of that particular view). This is very cumbersome (to the extent it is not really realistic) to achieve today and requires a lot of duplication of both model and layers.
The advantage of adding this is the ability to have only one model (with multiple views) and avoid duplication of work and the risk of inconsistency inherent with many copies of the model.
As a further (and natural extension to this) would be the ability to used this functionality with view-ports to be able to create (possibly many) paper-spaces from a single model. This would however require view-ports to be aware of what view they are a window into. A single change in the model would then propagate to all defined view-ports and paper-spaces.
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1923 | QCAD (main) | Bug Report | Very Low | Faulty rendering Polylines with Global/Local Widths and... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Win7pro 32bit Qcad 3.23.0
Andrew, The Arc segments of Polylines with Global or any Local Width render faulty where Global Z or any of the arc’s local Z is not zero.
In the attached drawing setting the Global Z of the inner poly to 5,10,...
The setting of Z to not zero affects the radius of the projected arc and not the bulging of the poly. It also affects the projected widths of the line inversely, but not by changing the widths properties.
Pritty rare combination! True. Qcad is 2D native! True.
Flatten will resolve this.
It is not a purely visual rendering fault, the poly will explode as such.
Maybe similar flaw as with uneven scaling blocks with arcs. https://qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5566#p20703
Regards
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1926 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | No negative coordinate values ? (DO command) | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Just starting with QCAD, for some hours now - really excellent user interface (compared to other low budget CADs, like DCAD, or BeckerCAD...) !
Surprisingly, point coordinates - entered via the command line, and shown with correct positions on the drawing- are not displayed correctly with the ‘dimordinate’ (DO) command. There are no negative values, even when the center point (0;0) is right in the middle of the drawing, so points left and below should have !
GW.G
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1928 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Optionnally 'Auto clean up' after generation of NaN / N... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Some functions / methods can generate some sort off entity or part with NaN / Null / Null-lenght ... props. Some explicitly don’t and test their actions with isNull().
As these serve a purpose in some processes, trails of them can be part of the results. For some users Null / Null-lenght are meaningfull, for other users these produce errors down the line. In a few cases its a desirable feature eg. controlpoint spline. (Allthough there are no Null props involved with equal successively controlpoints)
Many problem post on the forum are related to Null - Zero and so on.
In some cases it can’t be undone by re-editing the drawing. https://qcad.org/bugtracker/index.php?do=details&task_id=1925
If it can’t be undone by Undo/Redo it is a bug. https://qcad.org/bugtracker/index.php?do=details&task_id=1757
In some cases there is a difference noticed after file save-close-open.
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1940 | QCAD/CAM | Feature Request | Low | CAM > CAM Configuration: Add program description | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Add a program description to the CAM configuration dialog and export to postprocessors as variable.
See also: https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=32&p=24649
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1976 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Envelope at offset to a poly tool | Assigned | |
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Task Description
See: https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?t=6650
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1977 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Corresponding coordinate format | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Hi,
It would be less confusing to read messages in the command line protocol if it would use the same coordinate separators like the settings below Application Preferences / General / Coordinate Format.
This example shows the “Absolute Cartesian Coordinate” but of course all corresponding format settings should be used within messages.
Absolute Cartesian Coordinate: Setting = semicolon (;) but the message will use division (/).
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2016 | QCAD (main) | Bug Report | Low | Offsetting multi selection of polylines halts premature | Assigned | |
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Task Description
See: https://qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?&t=6827&p=25992#p25992
Offsetting 32 polys from ellipses fails. Offsetting 16 polys can be completed with 2 selections for outer and 2 for inner.
For some reason the offset function halts premature.
Regards, CVH
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2060 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | Dialog box for Layer Status | Assigned | |
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Task Description
So far, layer status has only been implemented very rudimentarily. I wish something like a dialog box in which you can choose for each layer status, which layers belong to it and which not.
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2087 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Low | More options for "Paste along Entity" [PE] | Assigned | |
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Task Description
“Paste” has already the options: To current layer, Overwrite layers, Overwrite blocks.
Would be a nice time saver to have the same options for “Paste along Entity” too.
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2098 | QCAD (main) | Bug Report | Very Low | Offset will pick up hidden blocks while using it in a l... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
When I’m drawing inside a layout block the offset tool picks up lines from blocks that are hidden. It is not happening with all the block.
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2107 | QCAD (main) | Feature Request | Very Low | Add a button to the tool bar to allow for a quick backg... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
I find myself with reasonable regularity needing to change the background color between black and white. It would be much more efficient to have a toggle button on the ribbon to make this sort of instant (kind of like the “screen based line types” button works but make it for background color and just between black and white or let people define their dark and light themes and toggle the background between the two.
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2138 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Very Low | Block zoomstate supersedes Model_Space after Undo of BC | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Summary: Block zoomstate supersedes Model_Space after Undo of BC
QCAD Professional Version: 3.25.2.1 (3.25.2.1) Internet: QCAD.org Build Date: Oct 15 2020 Revision: 2895712 Qt Version: 5.13.2 Architecture: i386 Compiler: Unknown «< (Win installer 32 bit)
With the file provided: ZW to see the top green ‘revision cloud’ up close QQ Box select around the cloud »> 2 entities in selection BC, select origin somewhere inside the selection, accept proposed naming »> ‘Block 1’ is created from the selection TN BD, select the newly created Block Reference »> Auto zoom of ‘Block 1’ (Intended behavior) OO »> Returns to Model_Space with the zoomstate of the removed Block »> Halfway down the drawing »> The former zoomstate of the Model_Space is lost
Intended behavior is that the zoomstate of Model_Space and Blocks don’t mix See: https://www.qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=7797&p=30371#p30378
This proves they do, even if the block doesn’t exists anymore.
Regards, CVH
PS: 3th trial to enter a suggestion ...
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2140 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Low | Changing navigation mode for mouse wheel doesn't change... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
Looks like error, but may be that’s feature request.
CAD software uses typical navigation behavior as: Wheel = Zoom; Ctrl+Wheel = Scroll up/down; Shift+Wheel = Scroll left/right.
Any other software like browsers, office software (openoffice writer, ms excel and so on), 2d paint software like GIMP (Photoshop and so on) uses other behavior: Wheel = Scroll up/down; Ctrl+Wheel = Zoom; Shift+Wheel = Scroll left/right.
Users, that intensively use CAD and other software simultaneously prefer to make same behavior in their applications switching CAD scroll to plain mouse wheel.
QCAD’s “Application Preferences”: “Graphics View: Navigation”: “Mouse wheel/ two finger swipe”: “Scroll” allow user to assign scroll up/down to wheel mouse instead of Zoom. But there is mistake Ctrl+Wheel didn’t change to Zoom. Ctrl+Wheel continues to scroll up/down, as the wheel. Wheel = Scroll up/down; Ctrl+Wheel = Scroll up/down; Shift+Wheel = Scroll left/right. No zoom!
Draw manipulation at this mode like a hell: you need to use wheel in conjunction with Ctrl/Shift to point draw in desired position, than move your hand to +(-) for make desired zoom.
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2145 | QCAD (main) | Bug Report | Low | Modify > Trim Both: closed polyline as either entity br... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
QCAD Professional
Version: 3.25.2.4 (3.25.2.4) Internet: QCAD.org Build Date: Nov 18 2020 Revision: 40f4475 Qt Version: 5.13.2 Architecture: i386 Compiler: Unknown
Use TM by mistake to trim a line to a closed shape. Topic: https://qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=7780 File included in the topic. Y1 Original Y2 Faulty use of TM Y3 After ‘Undo’
Husky only ‘could agree on a not proper working undo’ The conditional clause of this sentence is ‘the odd choice’. Blaming this on incompetence. Insight is the best way to get better ... ... but the rest is more an odd choice of tools for this kind of task ...
Again, the MISTAKE was by accident, not intended, in a flick of the wrist ... I didn’t change the trimming method, I simply forgot to ... only once.
The ‘undo’ of my incompetent MISTAKE didn’t returned to how the situation was before I erroneous trimmed with TM. I was simply undoing my erroneous action.
Documented it in 4 quadrants. For this, 4 times on purpose, and not as a consistent ‘odd choice’.
Regards, CVH
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2146 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Very Low | Keep 'Invisible' objects invisible while saving | Assigned | |
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Task Description
QCAD Professional Win installer 32bit Version: 3.25.2.4 (3.25.2.4) Internet: QCAD.org Build Date: Nov 18 2020 Revision: 40f4475 Qt Version: 5.13.2 Architecture: i386 Compiler: Unknown
Related topic: https://qcad.org/rsforum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=7882 Explanation found in REntity.cpp Listed as a Public Member Functions inherited from RObject
Regards, CVH
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2147 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Very Low | Allow breaking up self-intersecting a 2e time (at endpo... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
QCAD Professional win installer 32bit Version: 3.25.2.4 (3.25.2.4) Internet: QCAD.org Build Date: Nov 18 2020 Revision: 40f4475 Qt Version:5.13.2 Architecture: i386 Compiler: Unknown
Continued from https://qcad.org/bugtracker/index.php?do=details&task_id=1757 Splitting the old report up ... Same file. In the left example one can cut (DI) once. Cutting the second segment results in NO cut.
Regards CVH
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2148 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Very Low | Allow undo after breaking up self-intersecting with D2 ... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
QCAD Professional win installer 32bit Version: 3.25.2.4 (3.25.2.4) Internet: QCAD.org Build Date: Nov 18 2020 Revision: 40f4475 Qt Version:5.13.2 Architecture: i386 Compiler: Unknown
Continued from https://qcad.org/bugtracker/index.php?do=details&task_id=1757 Splitting the old report up ... Same file. In the left example one can break out segment (D2): - removing one of the loops with the ‘remove’ option. - leaving both without the ‘remove’ option. Bug? Without the ‘remove’ option it can’t be undone.
Regards CVH
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2149 | QCAD (main) | Suggestion | Very Low | Allow undo after auto trim self-intersecting with AX in... | Assigned | |
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Task Description
QCAD Professional win installer 32bit Version: 3.25.2.4 (3.25.2.4) Internet: QCAD.org Build Date: Nov 18 2020 Revision: 40f4475 Qt Version:5.13.2 Architecture: i386 Compiler: Unknown
Continued from https://qcad.org/bugtracker/index.php?do=details&task_id=1757 Splitting the old report up ... Same file. In the left example one can auto trim (AX): - The lower loop. - The top loop. Bug? The action on the top loop can’t be undone.
Regards CVH
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